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  • philehidiot - Friday, April 21, 2017 - link

    What? Doesn't have G-Sync?

    Bah. *awaits abuse*
  • lmcd - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    You had to wait too long. Why are you complaining about a feature for gamers being unavailable on a monitor for professional graphics work?
  • Alexvrb - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    lmcd, your joke detector has a pending fault code. You might want to get that looked at.
  • Azethoth - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    No the joke is on you. OP clearly asked for abuse and then got it.

    Anyway. As a prosumer I too am dismayed at the lack of combined G-Sync, Free Sync and OpenSync? or whatever the upcoming standard or alternatives are. Also, why no HDMI 2.1?
  • Magichands8 - Friday, April 21, 2017 - link

    Points of interest to me here are that it may be using Panasonic's new LCD technology and that it doesn't have the capability to properly reproduce film and other movie refresh rates. Panasonic's new tech should bring LCDs much closer to OLEDs without the OLED deficiencies. But it's odd to me that it doesn't support more of the DCI-P3 and Rec. 2020 standards. You'd think that and the ability display 24Hz film would be more important for post production.

    Hopefully this is isn't going to turn out to be TOO expensive. I could see myself shelling out $5,600 for a CG318-4K but if this is going to run up to $10,000+ it's definitely a no-go.
  • Bestmixtape - Friday, April 21, 2017 - link

    For Colour grading, grading at 60hz is not a big deal because 98% of the time the monitor is displaying a still image. But that being said, don't quote me, but there's a good chance that it will support 48Hz. FSI is using the same panel for their HDR grading monitor to come out at the end of the year.
  • Magichands8 - Sunday, April 23, 2017 - link

    Interesting tidbit about Flanders using the same panel. I'll have to check it out. Thanks.
  • Frenetic Pony - Friday, April 21, 2017 - link

    Just look down the page to see a very similar spec Dell monitor for $2k, yes also calibrated and etc.

    I know Ezio has got the reputation for high quality panels, but with other similar spec monitors announced recently and more to (probably) come soon I don't see a HUGE range in price cropping up.
  • Freakie - Friday, April 21, 2017 - link

    Reference monitors, especially cutting edge ones, easily go for $10,000+ unfortunately.
  • Magichands8 - Sunday, April 23, 2017 - link

    Yes, that's what I am afraid of, that it will be up in that range. I know Eizo for a long time has had at least one professional broadcast production model up in that range.
  • Valantar - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    Why exactly wouldn't this be able to refresh at 24Hz? Just because the spec sheet says "Refresh rate: 60Hz" doesn't mean it can't go lower than that - in fact, it would be very, very odd if it couldn't. Just because it doesn't have any kind of adaptive refresh rate (which isn't in use in any professional application AFAIK) doesn't mean it can only run at a single refresh rate ...
  • Magichands8 - Sunday, April 23, 2017 - link

    Well, it's particularly possible with Eizo involved that it WILL be able to reproduce film rates properly but if they are going to implement that and report 60Hz as a specification I would expect them to mention that capability as well. Usually 24Hz is problematic for LCDs and higher refresh rate multiples are more common which clearly is not an option with this monitor being that we already know it's capped at 60Hz. Although Eizo already has proper implementation of the lower rates in some of their other high-end CG models so there is still hope.

    If they do it then it will be very interesting to see if they enable it for 10+ bit output at the relevant rates seeing as how they are going to be covering a significant portion of Rec. 2020 and HDR.
  • tuxRoller - Friday, April 21, 2017 - link

    At this point they should ignore rec.2020 and compare it to rec.2100.

    I'm very impatient for these products to reach the wider market.
  • Bestmixtape - Friday, April 21, 2017 - link

    Rec2100 is just rec2020 and SMPTE ST-2084 combined, which is what this monitor does.
  • tuxRoller - Friday, April 21, 2017 - link

    Funny! I had come back to update my comment when i looked over rec.2100 again and saw that it can use 10 OR 12 bit quantization.
    Anyway, yeah, hdr10 is pretty similar to rec.2100 save the support for hlg oetf and 12 bit depth.
    Otoh, now we have hdr10+, which is pretty much identical to Dolby vision except for the lower bit depth (such may be less important given the per frame, metadata driven nature of hdr10+).
  • mdriftmeyer - Friday, April 21, 2017 - link

    I stopped giving a crap at 60Hz which means they are using DP 1.2. Wake me when the DP 1.4 monitors at 120/240Hz arrive with HDR and 10Bit DCI-P3 100%.
  • skavi - Friday, April 21, 2017 - link

    That's a joke, right?
  • Gothmoth - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    you are either dumb or clueless.... maybe both.
  • Tams80 - Monday, April 24, 2017 - link

    Just buy two monitors then. One for your work/hobby and one for gaming.
  • skavi - Friday, April 21, 2017 - link

    I hope to one day have enough money to buy a monitor like this just for hell of it.
  • Kamus - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    If you need a reference monitor, why bother with an LCD?

    Just buy a 2017 LG OLED and be done with it. Those things can be calibrated to almost delta 0.
    There is a reason Technicolor is ditching the 30,000 dollar Sony OLED reference monitors in favor of these new LG sets.
  • bubblyboo - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    Not everyone wants a 55" monitor, nor the issues with OLED and image retention. The Eizo also gets 1000 nits of brightness where even the highest end 2017 LG OLED only managed 700 nits in testing (advertised as 1000nits).
    http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/w7-e7-201703114438....
  • Kamus - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    300 nits of extra brightness are a very poor trade off to the much higher dynamic range OLED brings to the table.

    700-800 nits is still 7 to 8 times brighter than what SDR content is graded to. And with proper tone mapping, the OLED will look better every time, even if the source is graded to 1000 nits.

    Aside from the size argument (which to be honest shouldn't be a problem if you are grading video in HDR, it's actually a huge plus) I don't see why anyone would prefer an LCD for serious grading work.

    Image retention is temporary, burn in is even more rare than in plasmas on OLED and really, those limitations pale in comparison to the problems LCD has:

    -Terrible contrast (even VA panels can only muster 5000:1 CR)
    -Turtle like response time (anywhere from 1ms on TN panels to 4-15 MS on other tech, compared to .01ms on OLED)

    Basically, the choice is to pick a technology that was never a good enough technology in the first place (LCD) to something that can do reference picture quality.

    Sadly, LCD will be with us for a very long time still, and while it has come a very long way since it's early days. It's still fundamentally flawed.
  • bubblyboo - Sunday, April 23, 2017 - link

    The panel listed in the article is 1,000,000:1 static contrast ratio. Everything else you said is wrong either ways dumb dumb.
  • Kamus - Monday, April 24, 2017 - link

    If you think everything I said is wrong. You're dumb.
  • Gothmoth - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    you only read some PR but did not use your own brain before posting.. right?
  • hahmed330 - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    Contrast: '1,000,000:1'
    Is it static contrast???
  • mobutu - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    Yes, it's static/typical and NOT dynamic:
    http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/37.htm#ei...
    http://news.panasonic.com/global/press/data/2016/1...
  • Kamus - Sunday, April 23, 2017 - link

    Why link the panasonic tech?

    There is no indication than these monitors are using it. Which make EIZO's claims very dubious.

    It's funny, because people keep bringing up this Panasonic tech (not you, but I've seen many others) whenever you mention how OLED is superior to LCD, as if the Panasonic tech was available everywhere at typical LCD prices.

    But let's say it was available, sure. it would be better than what we have on current LCDs. But it doesn't do anything to improve response time, which is still well below OLED, and in the end affects things like input lag and motion smoothness.

    WOLED sadly isn't coming to PC monitors at affordable prices any time soon since the TV market is nowhere near saturated from LG panels, but who knows. Maybe we'll see 40" OLEDs in the next two years.
  • qap - Monday, April 24, 2017 - link

    "Why link the panasonic tech?"
    Well, it's very simple logic. If there is single supplier who has the technology ready, than it's most likely their's...

    "But it doesn't do anything to improve response time"
    Actually it can. Or at least the tech is able to significantly help with response time. Response time is measured from start of change to time when color reaches (and stays) within 5% of final value (or whatever margin you like). Now let's imagine the simplest case. You have white and you want to show black. Let's say, that normal LCD after 10ms reaches 10% brightness (from 100%). By that time 2-layer LCD is already on 1% of brightness (0.1*0.1*100). The other way around is even more counter-intuitive and it can increase response time. But you can drive much harder overdrive without overshooting much if you de-sync panels just right.
  • Kamus - Monday, April 24, 2017 - link

    Logic? Logic would tell us this is marketing bullshit.
  • Eris_Floralia - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    Still using an old SX2262W from 2009...Got it for $90-ish...
  • jabbadap - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    Lovely looking workhorse. But that aspect ratio is awkward, should be 2304p.
  • Valantar - Saturday, April 22, 2017 - link

    Uh, why? 4096*2160 is the cinema 4K standard. Which is exactly what you need for a reference monitor, after all.
  • Sarchasm - Monday, April 24, 2017 - link

    It's the DCI-4K 17:9 standard. If you think that's awkward, this monitor was not made for you.
  • Lolimaster - Sunday, April 23, 2017 - link

    What is the point of this shitty IPS monitor, you can have all the accuracy being shitted by the IPS glow and lack of contrast.

    Nothing is worse than looking grey blacks and washed out image because of the lack of contrast.
  • Kamus - Monday, April 24, 2017 - link

    Don't worry, people here are taking EIZO's 1,000,000:1 CR claims at face value.

    If this monitor was really capable of that CR, they would have made a much bigger deal about it.

    I would love to be wrong about this one. But experience says I'm not.
  • Dalamar6 - Tuesday, September 26, 2017 - link

    $5000-7000 for 31 inch eizo monitor, or 1600 for 55 inch LG b7a oled...i'll take the oled kthx. rather have the consistency and uniformity of ips, but oh well! Japanese are too rich, pay 5k+ for what costs 1000 to make, silly Eizo/Panasonic scammers. The irony is they get that contrast by using a b+w and color panel which should at most double prices (so $2600 max at 31")...can't wait for cheaper brands to pirate the tech...

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