The MSI X299 Tomahawk Arctic Motherboard Review: White as Snow
by Joe Shields on November 20, 2017 8:00 AM EST- Posted in
- Motherboards
- MSI
- M.2
- USB 3.1
- X299
- Skylake-X
- Tomahawk
- Tomahawk Arctic
CPU Performance, Short Form
For our motherboard reviews, we use our short form testing method. These tests usually focus on if a motherboard is using MultiCore Turbo (the feature used to have maximum turbo on at all times, giving a frequency advantage), or if there are slight gains to be had from tweaking the firmware. We leave the BIOS settings at default and memory at JEDEC sub-timings for these tests, making it very easy to see which motherboards have MCT enabled by default.
Blender 2.78: link
For a render that has been around for what seems like ages, Blender is still a highly popular tool. We managed to wrap up a standard workload into the February 5 nightly build of Blender and measure the time it takes to render the first frame of the scene. Being one of the bigger open source tools out there, it means both AMD and Intel work actively to help improve the codebase, for better or for worse on their own/each other's microarchitecture.
The MSI boards both have multi-core turbo enabled by default, although it seems to fire better on the SLI PLUS rather than the Arctic on this test.
Rendering – POV-Ray 3.7: link
The Persistence of Vision Ray Tracer, or POV-Ray, is a freeware package for as the name suggests, ray tracing. It is a pure renderer, rather than modeling software, but the latest beta version contains a handy benchmark for stressing all processing threads on a platform. We have been using this test in motherboard reviews to test memory stability at various CPU speeds to good effect – if it passes the test, the IMC in the CPU is stable for a given CPU speed. As a CPU test, it runs for approximately 2-3 minutes on high-end platforms.
Again, the MSI boards have MCT/MCE enabled, and the Arctic seemed to enable it the most during the POV-Ray test.
Compression – WinRAR 5.4: link
Our WinRAR test from 2013 is updated to the latest version of WinRAR at the start of 2014. We compress a set of 2867 files across 320 folders totaling 1.52 GB in size – 95% of these files are small typical website files, and the rest (90% of the size) are small 30 second 720p videos.
In a trifecta of 'which board is enabling MCT the most', the Gaming Pro Carbon gets this one. It will be interesting to see where the ASUS/GIGABYTE boards land when we finish testing them.
Synthetic – 7-Zip 9.2: link
As an open source compression tool, 7-Zip is a popular tool for making sets of files easier to handle and transfer. The software offers up its own benchmark, to which we report the result.
Point Calculations – 3D Movement Algorithm Test: link
3DPM is a self-penned benchmark, taking basic 3D movement algorithms used in Brownian Motion simulations and testing them for speed. High floating point performance, MHz and IPC win in the single thread version, whereas the multithread version has to handle the threads and loves more cores. For a brief explanation of the platform agnostic coding behind this benchmark, see my forum post here.
Neuron Simulation - DigiCortex v1.20: link
The newest benchmark in our suite is DigiCortex, a simulation of biologically plausible neural network circuits, and simulates the activity of neurons and synapses. DigiCortex relies heavily on a mix of DRAM speed and computational throughput, indicating that systems which apply memory profiles properly should benefit and those that play fast and loose with overclocking settings might get some extra speed up. Results are taken during the steady state period in a 32k neuron simulation and represented as a function of the ability to simulate in real time (1.000x equals real-time).
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Lolimaster - Monday, November 20, 2017 - link
Why buy this when Threaripper X399 is better in every possible way, like more pci-e lane, upgrades for the next 3 years. Modular arch.Lolimaster - Monday, November 20, 2017 - link
You can use ECC out of the box, nvme bootable raid, etc.mkaibear - Monday, November 20, 2017 - link
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1904?vs=19...That's why (note not identical parts because it's a 12 core TR vs an 8 core i7 - but they are as close as I can get in terms of costs). If I went the other way and went with a 10 core i9 vs the 16 core TR then we see roughly the same pattern of behaviour.
Threadripper wins in the multithreaded tests so long as the workload suits it but for the many benchmarks it's per-core speed which is more important than number of cores.
In essence, if your work requires fast cores and quite a few threads then you're better off with the i7 or i9, if it utilizes loads of threads but speed is less important then you're better off with the TR.
So; given that there are obvious use cases for both processors I'm afraid I can't agree that "Threadripper X399 is better in every possible way".
BroderLund - Monday, November 20, 2017 - link
For instance if you look at video encoding. Puget Systems are incredible detailed in their testing. Check out their Skylake-X vs Threadripper articles for both Premiere Pro CC and Davinci Resolve here:https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci...
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premier...
You can see that thredripper is not "better in every possible way". It really depends what is the most important in the system. RAW cpu power, expandability, multi gpu, multi nvme including multi gpu, raid cards, network cards and so on.
DanNeely - Monday, November 20, 2017 - link
TR can also win if you need the extra PCIe lanes; but with SLI/xFire both slowly dying in the 2 card version and more rapidly in the 3/4 card formats the need for a huge number of lanes is going away for gaming.rsandru - Monday, November 20, 2017 - link
My two 1080Tis are doing just fine, no need to worry :-)eek2121 - Monday, November 20, 2017 - link
Hopefully the BIOS/UEFI on this board isn't as buggy as the X399 board I have. Broken fan profiles, settings corruption over time, etc. all plague my X399 board. This was my first MSI board and it's going to be my last!Joe Shields - Monday, November 20, 2017 - link
The fan I had attached during testing (a DC fan) worked fine throughout the testing period. No settings corrupted over time but, it was only a week or so it was on the test bench.eek2121 - Monday, November 20, 2017 - link
Did you try setting a custom profile in the bios? For my X399 I tried changing the fans to go from 0% to 100% in a range from 40C-66C, the end result is that the fans don't end up turning on at all.Joe Shields - Monday, November 20, 2017 - link
No custom profiles, no. The default set worked.