Well, if the MB Pro used the same Apple SSD (Toshiba) as the macbook air, it is way behind even an Intel G2 SSD I would say the OCZ Petrol would fare quite well against it.
This is a move in the right direction. We need space, lower $/GB, and reliability over performance. I'm already applying updates, installing apps, and loading data in a few seconds with a three year old X25-M. Being able to replace all my spinning platters would be a dream come true. Just five of these would replace the 76 spindles I've got in a small data center.
So one or two modern mechanical drives would also replace your 76 spindles, right? I think you should do that, the failure rate of 76 very old harddrives must be horribly high.
I don't think he's talking about a bunch of ancient 10GB HDDs. I believe he's referring to performance rather than capacity. Five SSDs could offer equivalent (or better?) performance than 76 hard drives, even if they were newer drives. Their random read/write is pretty sad.
They range from 36-300GB of the 15k rpm variety spread across 5 servers. If you throw HA out the window I could run the whole mess from a Mid-tower ATX case with these drives and have enough performance and space.
It's nice to hear which flash they're using, but other than this - not very exciting. Performance numbers for all capacities would have been very interesting.
While I use that tool to move things around, it doesn't magically make SSDs any larger and it certainly doesn't make the files I moved to my large spinner load any faster just because the computer 'thinks' those files are located on my SSD... therefore... SSDs need to become larger and cheaper.
Well, since consumers don't buy flash cells directly, I don't think Micron needs to care. But yeah, Anand may not get a Christmas Card from Micron this year ;-)
I am not sure as to the exact percentages of ownership, but Micron has 51% of the NAND for their customers and Intel have 49% of the NAND for their customers.
This means that although the NAND is manufactured in the same fab, Micron's customers get an M logo on their NAND, Intel customers get an Intel logo (figure of speech).
OCZ have been using NAND bought from Intel, thus he is calling it Intel NAND.
It would be an added bonus if you could include drive height when writing overviews; I own a Lenovo X220 which is limited to 7mm drive heights. Just a "nice to have". :-)
Why is reliability so hard for these drives? It is not like they are a new product? Obviously the technology landscape keeps shifting, but shouldn't overall reliability be coming down sequentially?
Everyone has their own firmware, I guess because because their configurations are different, but it strikes me there is too wide a gap in 'reliability' (perceived or real)?
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Dr0id - Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - link
How well should the OCZ Petrol drive perform against the Apple SSD in the 2011 MBP Pros?euler007 - Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - link
Well, if the MB Pro used the same Apple SSD (Toshiba) as the macbook air, it is way behind even an Intel G2 SSD I would say the OCZ Petrol would fare quite well against it.http://www.anandtech.com/show/3991/apples-2010-mac...
ochadd - Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - link
This is a move in the right direction. We need space, lower $/GB, and reliability over performance. I'm already applying updates, installing apps, and loading data in a few seconds with a three year old X25-M. Being able to replace all my spinning platters would be a dream come true. Just five of these would replace the 76 spindles I've got in a small data center.ShieTar - Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - link
So one or two modern mechanical drives would also replace your 76 spindles, right? I think you should do that, the failure rate of 76 very old harddrives must be horribly high.Minion4Hire - Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - link
I don't think he's talking about a bunch of ancient 10GB HDDs. I believe he's referring to performance rather than capacity. Five SSDs could offer equivalent (or better?) performance than 76 hard drives, even if they were newer drives. Their random read/write is pretty sad.ochadd - Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - link
They range from 36-300GB of the 15k rpm variety spread across 5 servers. If you throw HA out the window I could run the whole mess from a Mid-tower ATX case with these drives and have enough performance and space.Taft12 - Thursday, February 2, 2012 - link
Buddy, he's talking about 10K or 15K SCSI or SAS drives. Smarten up!Beenthere - Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - link
OCZ must be hoping that their shotgun approach to SSDs will net them enough sales to pay for the RMAs.MrSpadge - Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - link
It's nice to hear which flash they're using, but other than this - not very exciting. Performance numbers for all capacities would have been very interesting.And for anyone complaining about SSDs still being too small & expensive: take a look here!
http://www.traynier.com/software/steammover
MrS
seamonkey79 - Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - link
While I use that tool to move things around, it doesn't magically make SSDs any larger and it certainly doesn't make the files I moved to my large spinner load any faster just because the computer 'thinks' those files are located on my SSD... therefore... SSDs need to become larger and cheaper.icrf - Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - link
Honest question: is it doing Micron a disservice by referring to IMFT flash memory as "Intel MLC"VxRaptor - Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - link
It is Intel - Micron.. Its a 50 -50 joint venture !ShieTar - Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - link
Well, since consumers don't buy flash cells directly, I don't think Micron needs to care. But yeah, Anand may not get a Christmas Card from Micron this year ;-)Coup27 - Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - link
IMFT = Intel Micron Flash Technologies.I am not sure as to the exact percentages of ownership, but Micron has 51% of the NAND for their customers and Intel have 49% of the NAND for their customers.
This means that although the NAND is manufactured in the same fab, Micron's customers get an M logo on their NAND, Intel customers get an Intel logo (figure of speech).
OCZ have been using NAND bought from Intel, thus he is calling it Intel NAND.
gkaplan - Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - link
It would be an added bonus if you could include drive height when writing overviews; I own a Lenovo X220 which is limited to 7mm drive heights. Just a "nice to have". :-)lancid81 - Thursday, December 15, 2011 - link
Right now.. Samsungs 830 series is the only SSD I know of that supports the 7mm height...lizardview - Thursday, December 15, 2011 - link
Why is reliability so hard for these drives? It is not like they are a new product? Obviously the technology landscape keeps shifting, but shouldn't overall reliability be coming down sequentially?Everyone has their own firmware, I guess because because their configurations are different, but it strikes me there is too wide a gap in 'reliability' (perceived or real)?
sunshinekhan - Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - link
I would never recommend the Petrol to anybody until OCZ makes me happy; which I doubt!From a batch of about 80 OCZ Petrol (64Gb), 15 crashed on me within weeks, 10 Dead on Arrival.
This could be a case of a bad lot, but what happened to their QA / QC?
Tread cautiously with Petrol!