AMD Ryzen 7000 "together we advance_PCs” Live Blog (7pm ET/23:00 UTC)
by Gavin Bonshor on August 29, 2022 1:00 PM EST
06:57PM EDT - Thank you, as always, for joining us for AMD's together we advance_PCs event
06:58PM EDT - We should hopefully get under way on time, in around 30 seconds
07:00PM EDT - And we're about to begin within the next 40 seconds
07:01PM EDT - And we're under way
07:02PM EDT - Welcome to AMD's together we advance_PCs event
07:02PM EDT - Enter AMD's CEO, Dr. Lisa Su
07:03PM EDT - AMD is set to announce four new architectures today...
07:03PM EDT - Starting with Zen 4, based on TSMC 5nm
07:04PM EDT - Pushing the envelope on PC innovation, Zen 4
07:05PM EDT - AMD Ryzen 7000 series, New CPU core design, leadership in performance and efficiency
07:05PM EDT - AMD Zen 4 is first 5 nm desktop processor
07:05PM EDT - With PCIe 5.0, DDR5, (But no DDR4 support, unfortunately)
07:06PM EDT - AMD Ryzen 7000 series, 13% uplift in performance over Zen 3 (5000 Series)
07:06PM EDT - Up to 29% single threaded performance, Up to 5.7 GHz
07:06PM EDT - AMD Ryzen 9 7950X, Flagship CPU for Gaming and Content Creators
07:07PM EDT - Some in house performance figures
07:07PM EDT - Ryzen 9 7950X is the 'fastest CPU in the world'
07:08PM EDT - And Lisa runs a V-Ray Render benchmark, Core i9-12900K vs Ryzen 9 7950X, 62% increase in performance
07:08PM EDT - 47% better performance per watt on Ryzen 9 7950X versus Core i9-12900K
07:09PM EDT - Four new CPUs, Ryzen 7950X, 7900X, 7700X and 7600X
07:10PM EDT - Demoing F1 2022 with the Ryzen 7600X, 11% faster than Core i9-12900K
07:10PM EDT - 5% faster overall on average on Ryzen 7600X
07:11PM EDT - And here comes Mark Papermaster
07:11PM EDT - Zen 4 'disrupted' the industry with efficiency and energy gains
07:12PM EDT - AMD Zen 4 on 5 nm, Ryzen 7000 for Desktop, High Performance processing
07:12PM EDT - Zen 4 delivers again, AMD on fire
07:13PM EDT - Zen 4 brings 13% Core IPC uplift, New front end design, and AVX-512 AI acceleration
07:13PM EDT - Up to 13% Instruction Per Clock performance (IPC)
07:13PM EDT - "We thrive on innovation"
07:14PM EDT - 13% uplift is a 'geomean' of expected performance
07:14PM EDT - When compared directly to Zen 3
07:15PM EDT - 235% IPC gain overall. Core performance focus is relentless
07:15PM EDT - IPC uplift is based at 4.0 GHz fixed frequencies on the core
07:16PM EDT - Increased OP cache by 1.5x
07:16PM EDT - Adding support for AVX-512, bringing Ryzen up to date
07:17PM EDT - Using AVX-512 equals up to 1.3x performance versus Zen 3, in FP32 Inferencing
07:18PM EDT - 5nm is the leading edge process technology
07:18PM EDT - Focusing on performance and efficiency. Zen 4, faster, smaller, using an enhanced metal stack
07:18PM EDT - 15 layer telescoping
07:19PM EDT - 18% reduction in die area when compared to Zen 3, impressive
07:19PM EDT - 62% lower power than 7 nm (5950X)
07:20PM EDT - Significant gains in both performance and efficiency, up to 75% at 65 W TDP
07:20PM EDT - Doubling down
07:20PM EDT - N5 sweet spot is at lower TDPs
07:21PM EDT - AMD Zen 4 + L2 complex is 50% smaller than the competition
07:21PM EDT - 47% more energy efficient versus the competition
07:22PM EDT - Full CPU roadmap through to 2025, Zen 5 on 4mn
07:22PM EDT - Zen 4 with 3D V-Cache coming in first half of 2023 for servers
07:22PM EDT - On track for Zen 5, by the end of 2024
07:23PM EDT - Consistently on schedule, Zen 4 is a testament to solid R+D
07:23PM EDT - Next gen designs well underway, Zen 4 delivers!
07:23PM EDT - "There will be no let up in AMD Innovation"
07:24PM EDT - Thank you Mark Papermaster. Now David McAfee comes on stage
07:24PM EDT - Diving into the platform for Zen 4, the AM5 platform
07:24PM EDT - A quick recap on the AM4 platform. Six years later, still going strong
07:25PM EDT - 125+ processors
07:25PM EDT - 500+ motherboards, 5 CPU archs, one socket
07:25PM EDT - The next frontier of Ryzen motherboards
07:25PM EDT - AM5 platform brings new levels of capability
07:26PM EDT - New LGA1718 socket, Up to 230 W power delivery on the socket
07:26PM EDT - AM5 with PCIe 5.0 and DDR5, meets your growing needs for years to come
07:26PM EDT - AM5 works with AM4 coolers
07:27PM EDT - X series boards (X670E/X670), coming in September, Enthusiast, PCIe 5.0
07:27PM EDT - X670E with PCIe 5.0 to PEG slot
07:27PM EDT - B650E chipset, PCIe 5.0 PEG and storage support
07:28PM EDT - PCIe 5.0 doubles the bandwidth
07:28PM EDT - PCIe 5.0 storage devices coming in November
07:29PM EDT - Recapping DDR4 memory, DDR5 with more bandwidth, more capacity
07:29PM EDT - AMD EXPO Technology, Extended profiles for overclocking
07:29PM EDT - One click DDR5 memory overclocking
07:29PM EDT - Lower latency (down to 63ns)
07:30PM EDT - Over 15 kits supporting AMD EXPO at launch, up to DDR5-6400
07:30PM EDT - AM5 motherboards starting from $125 USD
07:30PM EDT - Supporting AM4 until 2025
07:31PM EDT - Welcome back Dr. Lisa Su
07:31PM EDT - 11% faster ST performance versus 12900K
07:31PM EDT - Ryzen 9 7960X for $699
07:32PM EDT - Ryzen 9 7900X $549
07:32PM EDT - Ryzen 7 7700X for $399, and 7600X for $299. All available September 27th
07:32PM EDT - Now onto graphics, RDNA 3,
07:33PM EDT - First look at RDNA 3 worldwidr
07:33PM EDT - Combining next-gen architecture with 5nm chipset technology
07:33PM EDT - 50% more PPW than current gen
07:33PM EDT - Launching later this year
07:34PM EDT - Recapping Ryzen 7000, Moving AMD through to 2025 and beyond!
07:34PM EDT - (The live demo of RDNA 3 was on Lives of Free, a new title coming)
07:35PM EDT - And that concludes AMD's we advance_PCs event
07:36PM EDT - A quick recap on pricing for Ryzen 7000
07:37PM EDT - AMD Ryzen 9 7950X, $699, Ryzen 9 7900X, $549, Ryzen 7 7700X, $399, and Ryzen 5 7600X, $299. All coming September 27th
07:37PM EDT - Thanks for joining us for AMD's together we advance_PCs event
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shabby - Monday, August 29, 2022 - link
It'll prove everything!!!!11Otritus - Tuesday, August 30, 2022 - link
ARM is an ISA. It can be used in either low or high power designs. Its designs used to be exclusively low power, and now new higher power micro architectures are being designed. x86 designs also used to be low power.x86 legacy bloat should have less than a 10% impact on power. Demanding that x86 processors output high levels of performance with excellent levels of efficiency should be the norm. It’s not a useless comparison because we know what the technology could be, and Intel/AMD aren’t going to focus on efficiency unless we demand it.
I want a x86 M2, and will continue to demand that Intel or AMD engineers match the competition (Apple). Also people are actively looking into Apple computers due to the massive efficiency advantage, so the comparison isn’t apples to oranges or useless.
Anoldnewb2 - Monday, August 29, 2022 - link
A Turdle is more efficient than rabbit.Dante Verizon - Monday, August 29, 2022 - link
If it was a 5nm mobile APU your comparison would make sense.sirmo - Monday, August 29, 2022 - link
You still kind of have to wait for the APU Phoenix Point for that comparison.vanilla_gorilla - Monday, August 29, 2022 - link
Let me spoil the anticipation: M2 is more FLOPS/watt but in absolute performance AMD crushes the M2 because, shocker, performance scaling isn't linear. Still.Hifihedgehog - Tuesday, August 30, 2022 - link
Epically dumb comment, like I was at some college football game listening to a mindless drunk jock screaming in the bleachers. Do you realize that you are comparing with M2 which was significantly lower single core performance (20% less) and exponentially less multi-core performance (30-70% less) than a desktop processor? Are you on crack or forgot to take your meds? You do realize too that Apple uses an obscene amount of die space per core since their engineers are instructed to go wide and be pigs about die space to get crazy efficiency, and that is what will always prevent them from scaling up production and design into mainstream desktop computing. Charging $4000 for a Godzilla-sized 20-core M1 Ultra that falls short in single core and is maybe on par in multicore with the totally tinier 16-core $699 Ryzen 9 7950X is exactly why they cannot compete.Hifihedgehog - Tuesday, August 30, 2022 - link
Epically dumb comment, like I was at some college football game listening to a mindless drunk jock screaming in the bleachers. Do you realize that you are comparing with M2 which was significantly lower single core performance (20% less) and exponentially less multi-core performance (30-70% less) than a Zen 4-based desktop processor? Are you on a crack marathon and forgot to take your meds before your bedtime story? You do realize of course too that Apple uses an obscene amount of die space per core since their engineers are instructed to go wide and be pigs about die space to get crazy efficiency, and that is what will always prevent them from scaling up production and design into mainstream desktop computing given the costs. Charging $4000 for a Godzilla-sized 20-core M1 Ultra that falls short in single core and is maybe on par in multicore performance with the totally tinier 16-core $699 Ryzen 9 7950X is exactly why they cannot compete in desktop territory.Hrel - Monday, August 29, 2022 - link
They integrated a GPU, so they had extra die space and decided it wasn't worth while to use that on actual CPU performance. We the customers are ALWAYS going to have an actual GPU. Make one CPU for business use, exempt the rest from the integrated GPU.Just goes to show real advancements in CPU performance are long dead. Just like Intel needing native OS integration to see any gains at all.
Has there been any news on AMD getting native OS scheduler integration? Seems illegal for Intel to be the only one's with that advantage. Anybody know?
Ryan Smith - Monday, August 29, 2022 - link
Note that the GPU is on the IOD, not the core die(s). So it's not a (direct) case of one or the other.